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Author Topic: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017 (Updated 8-12-17)  (Read 545 times)

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Re: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2017, 10:57:19 PM »

Such cool pics from the light portion of the show! That's one thing I was hoping to do at MATS and had planned to include. I had thought it was the first night of the show when in fact they do it on the eve of the show's kickoff so I missed it.
As far as the 567, I actually have been seeing a decent amount of them. It was designed as a replacement for the 367, which is a vocational model, but inadvertently has found some success with OTR companies. I doubt you will see it go the way the Titan did though. Mack did not provide what the customers wanted, which was variety, and while the Titan was powerful, they priced it way out of its market, and only gave you a few configurations which were mainly mechanical in variety. The Titan was only ever available as SFFA and a daycab. The 567 can be had as SFFA or SBFA, and is available with all of Peterbilt's sleeper sizes and options. I see them mainly as dump trucks and flatbeds around here, though a few OTR fleets have them that I have spotted, but the vocational market is really what the truck was designed for so it makes sense it would be selling better there. It really makes sense for Peterbilt to have it as a kind of middle of the road product between full aero and classic styling, and I wouldn't think it is costing them that much to produce as it's pretty much a 579 with a different front end. PACCAR seems to really understand their markets and knows how to position products, whereas Mack quite frankly doesn't seem to, so I think they are two different situations.

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Man I hope you're right. I'm mostly just disappointed that they don't seem to have caught on like I hoped they would. As long as Peterbilt doesn't discontinue them I'm happy. I didn't know the 567 comes with set-back or set-forward options, so thanks for that info. I can't say I've noticed a difference in the exterior styling, or maybe I just haven't been paying attention. Either way great write up Jon.

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Re: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2017, 10:57:19 PM »

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Re: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2017, 11:05:11 PM »

Actually I think the shot of the RD Excavating 358A is really cool! That is such an awesome show truck 8)

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Thanks. I love the look and the burgundy paintjob is my favorite, but tbh I lost a lot of respect for it when I caught it leaving the show and they took the top half of the stacks off because obviously the look is just for show. I mean congrats, it did its' purpose and won the award for best limited-for-show bobtail, but what good is a truck that can't pull a trailer and you have to dismantle part of the truck just to make it road-worthy? Give me a working show truck any day, because those are the ones that have to go through a ton more cleaning to get show ready versus a truck that only sees the light of day when it's going to the next show. Also the whole exhaust-pipes-twice-as-tall-as-the-flat-top look is kinda corny IMO. Make it proportionate. Also it should be road-legal in the contest, it reminds me of the cars that used to go on Pimp My Ride. The whole fishtank in the Civic was a cool concept, but it was never road legal so it was all for show. This truck reminds me of that.

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Re: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2017, 11:10:52 PM »

Such cool pics from the light portion of the show! That's one thing I was hoping to do at MATS and had planned to include. I had thought it was the first night of the show when in fact they do it on the eve of the show's kickoff so I missed it.
As far as the 567, I actually have been seeing a decent amount of them. It was designed as a replacement for the 367, which is a vocational model, but inadvertently has found some success with OTR companies. I doubt you will see it go the way the Titan did though. Mack did not provide what the customers wanted, which was variety, and while the Titan was powerful, they priced it way out of its market, and only gave you a few configurations which were mainly mechanical in variety. The Titan was only ever available as SFFA and a daycab. The 567 can be had as SFFA or SBFA, and is available with all of Peterbilt's sleeper sizes and options. I see them mainly as dump trucks and flatbeds around here, though a few OTR fleets have them that I have spotted, but the vocational market is really what the truck was designed for so it makes sense it would be selling better there. It really makes sense for Peterbilt to have it as a kind of middle of the road product between full aero and classic styling, and I wouldn't think it is costing them that much to produce as it's pretty much a 579 with a different front end. PACCAR seems to really understand their markets and knows how to position products, whereas Mack quite frankly doesn't seem to, so I think they are two different situations.

Jon

Man I hope you're right. I'm mostly just disappointed that they don't seem to have caught on like I hoped they would. As long as Peterbilt doesn't discontinue them I'm happy. I didn't know the 567 comes with set-back or set-forward options, so thanks for that info. I can't say I've noticed a difference in the exterior styling, or maybe I just haven't been paying attention. Either way great write up Jon.
No problem! If you don't mind my posting it, here is a 567 SBFA that I got at MATS earlier this year, this one leased to Landstar IIRC.


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Re: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2017, 11:13:44 PM »

Actually I think the shot of the RD Excavating 358A is really cool! That is such an awesome show truck 8)

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Thanks. I love the look and the burgundy paintjob is my favorite, but tbh I lost a lot of respect for it when I caught it leaving the show and they took the top half of the stacks off because obviously the look is just for show. I mean congrats, it did its' purpose and won the award for best limited-for-show bobtail, but what good is a truck that can't pull a trailer and you have to dismantle part of the truck just to make it road-worthy? Give me a working show truck any day, because those are the ones that have to go through a ton more cleaning to get show ready versus a truck that only sees the light of day when it's going to the next show. Also the whole exhaust-pipes-twice-as-tall-as-the-flat-top look is kinda corny IMO. Make it proportionate. Also it should be road-legal in the contest, it reminds me of the cars that used to go on Pimp My Ride. The whole fishtank in the Civic was a cool concept, but it was never road legal so it was all for show. This truck reminds me of that.
I guess for me it depends on the truck. I think when they are over the top, yeah I'm not a fan of having a show truck just to have, but when it's something like this, I give it a pass. The stacks are too tall, and they really don't add anything to the truck as far as I'm concerned, it would still show just as well with standard ones. The problem with a truck like this is, it would be difficult to have it be working as it is over 50 years old. There aren't a lot of parts around anymore, and while mechanically it is I'm sure very new, it would just be a financial risk and a big hassle to work a truck like that.

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Re: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017 (Updated 8-12-17)
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2017, 07:48:58 PM »
I think these pictures still turned out great; the glow in the parking lot doesn't bother me much.  I always really enjoy your night pics, especially as I don't have a tripod to take pictures like that of my own.  It really is something seeing trucks all lit up like a Christmas tree in person. 8)

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Re: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2017, 08:09:59 PM »

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No problem! If you don't mind my posting it, here is a 567 SBFA that I got at MATS earlier this year, this one leased to Landstar IIRC.


Jon

Very cool, definitely don't mind you sharing it. Feel free to add in your pics to any of my future threads too, the more the merrier. The 567 has gotta be my favorite aero rig on the road today, it's the only one that offers a throwback to the trucks of old.


Actually I think the shot of the RD Excavating 358A is really cool! That is such an awesome show truck 8)

Jon

Thanks. I love the look and the burgundy paintjob is my favorite, but tbh I lost a lot of respect for it when I caught it leaving the show and they took the top half of the stacks off because obviously the look is just for show. I mean congrats, it did its' purpose and won the award for best limited-for-show bobtail, but what good is a truck that can't pull a trailer and you have to dismantle part of the truck just to make it road-worthy? Give me a working show truck any day, because those are the ones that have to go through a ton more cleaning to get show ready versus a truck that only sees the light of day when it's going to the next show. Also the whole exhaust-pipes-twice-as-tall-as-the-flat-top look is kinda corny IMO. Make it proportionate. Also it should be road-legal in the contest, it reminds me of the cars that used to go on Pimp My Ride. The whole fishtank in the Civic was a cool concept, but it was never road legal so it was all for show. This truck reminds me of that.

I guess for me it depends on the truck. I think when they are over the top, yeah I'm not a fan of having a show truck just to have, but when it's something like this, I give it a pass. The stacks are too tall, and they really don't add anything to the truck as far as I'm concerned, it would still show just as well with standard ones. The problem with a truck like this is, it would be difficult to have it be working as it is over 50 years old. There aren't a lot of parts around anymore, and while mechanically it is I'm sure very new, it would just be a financial risk and a big hassle to work a truck like that.

Jon

For all my criticisms of it, it's still a really good looking truck. Love the grille, the paint job, the front end look (minus the oversized bumper), just think that comically oversized stacks detract from it. I'll share the shot of it I have leaving the show later, it left a lasting impression on me, like it was even more incomplete than normal for a bobtail. Like how is it gonna win the award for best limited for show bobtail when it looks incomplete driving down the road? Something that beautiful should look eye-catching going down the road, instead it just looks incomplete.

I think these pictures still turned out great; the glow in the parking lot doesn't bother me much.  I always really enjoy your night pics, especially as I don't have a tripod to take pictures like that of my own.  It really is something seeing trucks all lit up like a Christmas tree in person. 8)

Thanks Iowa :).  FYI if you're ever interested in taking night shots you can buy a basic tripod off Amazon for 20 bucks. I have one that I keep as a backup, but tbh I've never had to use it. The key is just to make sure when you hit the shutter that you don't move the camera at all, and your shots will come out fine (I also hold my breath to stay as still as possible). Takes a little practice but I've evolved to the point I only break out the tripod for the best trucks, the rest of the time I just balance my camera on the car window. 1/3 of a sec is my shutter speed as long as there's some background light, if I need 2-4 seconds then I break out the tripod.

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Re: Coverage of the 75 Chrome Shop show from April 2017
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2017, 08:09:59 PM »

 

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