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Title: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on June 30, 2017, 07:19:28 AM
What's going on here?  ???  Frustrating to look at threads with no photos in them >:( >:(........first Iowa80 and now I see (or don't see  ;D) Paul Kane's and tnsamiams photos aren't showing up.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Ray F on June 30, 2017, 08:01:10 AM
Maybe it's NSA or the CIA ... :P  ;D

But seriously, I noticed this last night as well.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Paul Kane on June 30, 2017, 08:05:36 AM
I guess I'm now caught up in this.  They're basically holding them for ransom, I need to pony up 40.00 a month or $400-$500 a year for "image hosting".  I can't justify or afford that.  Looks like 14 years of posts down the drain.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on June 30, 2017, 09:55:46 AM
$400-$500 a year? ??? That's crazy. :o I think I'm paying about $100 a year now which I'm ok with right now. It's no fun looking at all these threads with no photos. >:( :( :'(
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on June 30, 2017, 01:29:52 PM
Yup, they're basically screwing everyone for more money. It is the reason why I have not posted any new content in awhile, I have been ensuring I have all of my files saved so that I can switch them to Slickpic. My photobucket posts are now also showing up this way. Total BS what they are doing and it is not just affecting our forum but a lot of them. They are going to lose a TON of customers this way.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on June 30, 2017, 01:39:04 PM
It is the reason why I have not posted any new content in awhile, I have been ensuring I have all of my files saved so that I can switch them to Slickpic.

If you have your photos backed up on an XHD or your computer or the cloud already isn't this a big waste of time and effort? ??? I'm not computer savvy but I've never used Photobucket as nothing more than a hosting site.

If Slickpic decides a year from now to do the same thing will you then have to repeat the process with another hosting site? ???
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on June 30, 2017, 01:44:53 PM
I have most backed up yes, but my 2012 and some of my 2013 vacation photos I did not which is why I took the time. Otherwise, resaving everything was just for organization purposes but everything is backed up now as well. If you right click on the photo here and open it in a new tab, it will show the image. Anyway, yes PB is just a hosting site, I just felt I would take the time to edit some older photos in the process as I have learned a lot since originally posting them.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: tery on June 30, 2017, 01:55:01 PM
It sounds like Photobucket kicked the bucket .
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on June 30, 2017, 02:04:54 PM
Thanks Jon.......I get it now. :)
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on June 30, 2017, 02:11:03 PM

No problem, it was half me wanting to switch everything over and half being OCD and wanting to fix stuff I knew how to edit having learned a lot when I was majoring in design, as well as from you guys on here. It's a shame as now either everyone will have to take the time to switch to a new hosting site, or hopefully photobucket will realize what a stupid idea this is and switch everything back. The bad part is not even the cost factor, it's that they gave no prior notice to any of their members about it, and they host tens of millions of photos on the Internet so this is a very big deal. If anything, hopefully the other hosts will realize how bad of an idea this is and never attempt anything similar. IMO, photobucket has been pretty much crap for awhile now anyway, between the constant bugs following updates and the slowness of their servers, plus their complete lack of customer service whatsoever. I am glad I left.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: tery on June 30, 2017, 02:45:12 PM
They are having this exact Photobucket discussion right now on a Guitar Forum .
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on June 30, 2017, 02:46:44 PM

They are having it on several forums I imagine. It's really been handled very poorly on Photobucket's end and unless they take some kind of corrective action I don't see them coming through this unscathed.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Greg_E on June 30, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
I think a big part of it is how expensive internet storage space has become. I save all my unedited photos on CDs right now and was hoping I could find an inexpensive way to store them for an indefinite amount of time. The problem is most charge hundreds of dollars for a large amount of space and sites like photobucket automatically resize images to a smaller (if only slightly) scale. It's frustrating.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Zeprome on June 30, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
It sounds like Photobucket kicked the bucket .

Haha. *Badum Tst!*

Use Imgur or other image storage websites for now. Perhaps Photobucket is trying to heavily capitalize?
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: mooby346 on June 30, 2017, 06:33:23 PM
I'm sure Photobucket is pissed from people using them as a hosting site, but if you're not visiting the site and just looking at the shots it doesn't drive any traffic to them. Probably had to cut back because they're losing money hosting people's shit for free. I'd recommend Flickr but I understand everyone's reservations, I had my own before I joined. Fair warning though, I feel all these other third party hosters that give you a ton of space for free no questions asked, aka Slickpic/Imgur/etc., will be next.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on June 30, 2017, 06:45:11 PM
I wouldn't be so sure the others will follow suit, especially with all of the negative press PB has gotten, and writers are only just reporting it today. PB's social media accounts are full of angry customers, this is going to hurt them, and the other hosting sites would IMO be massively stupid if they did the same thing. If anything, they would be smart to come out and publicly condemn Photobucket to get all of their now angry members to switch over.
These sites know people use third party hosting, a good portion of images on the internet are formatted that way. Photobucket simply got greedy, and is probably already losing money after their major interface change three years ago, which already irritated a lot of people.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on June 30, 2017, 06:56:38 PM
I'm sure Photobucket is pissed from people using them as a hosting site, but if you're not visiting the site and just looking at the shots it doesn't drive any traffic to them. Probably had to cut back because they're losing money hosting people's shit for free. I'd recommend Flickr but I understand everyone's reservations, I had my own before I joined. Fair warning though, I feel all these other third party hosters that give you a ton of space for free no questions asked, aka Slickpic/Imgur/etc., will be next.

I agree 100%. I used ImageShack for a while & liked it then one day they were gone and so were all my photos.  >:(
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on June 30, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
Just to add, there is a lot of speculation going around that this is a bit of a final attempt at pocket filling before going out of business/selling the business. Wouldn't be a surprise.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Ray F on June 30, 2017, 07:27:07 PM
I'll keep my weebly Thx  8) Just hope they don't pull a Stunt like this in the future, That's what worries me.  :-\
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: mooby346 on June 30, 2017, 10:25:08 PM
Just to add, there is a lot of speculation going around that this is a bit of a final attempt at pocket filling before going out of business/selling the business. Wouldn't be a surprise.

Jon

Seems plausible. Obviously they knew there would be blowback when they made this move. Photobucket is a dinosaur in picture hosting sites anyways, the younger crowd uses Imgur/slickpic, reddit's hosting site, etc.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Ray F on June 30, 2017, 11:29:53 PM
I wish Photobucket had their Ads up where the sun don't Shine ... They're Annoying and Malicious >:( I wish my tablet had Ad Blocker, so I could visit the site Again, to retrieve my Copy & Delete them.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Iowa80 on July 01, 2017, 04:46:59 PM
Only noticed this thread now; should have created it when I first found out about the new terms of service and my pics disappearing.  As I know firsthand, this is a major problem for us.  I agree with Jon, I don't see how this could help their business at all; if anything I think this could really hurt them.  Hardly anybody will be willing to pay the $400/year to use this feature, so it's not like even that will compensate for it.  I'm sure lots of people are very angry about this, and Photobucket just did their competition a big favor by doing this.  Even if they realized their mistake and restore all the photos, which would still be nice for the sake of others affected by this, I am NEVER going back to using that POS site.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Cardboardfido on July 01, 2017, 07:35:06 PM
I was about to sign up for more PB space.
Thanks for the "heads up" on (what I kinda assumed), was the story.
(luckily) PB doesnt have MY 'originals'...
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 01, 2017, 07:52:26 PM
I've just been looking at PBs Terms of Service and noticed they still offer the plan I have........The Plus 100 which offers 102GB of storage for $99.99 a year. Just wondering if that's a little more reasonable for the members here & would they be able to have their pictures restored and then transfer them to another site in due time? ???

 They do have the $499 plan but there's no way I'd spring for that. >:(
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Iowa80 on July 01, 2017, 07:57:48 PM
IIRC the only plan that allowed for hosting images on a forum was the $399/$499 one. :-\
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 01, 2017, 10:15:48 PM
You are correct, all other accounts, including paid ones, are not permitted the third party hosting. I am confident we will get stuff back up and running, it will just take time to convert photos over to new hosts. Unfortunately pretty much every forum and blog on the internet is dealing with the same thing so at least we aren't alone. If you are still with Photobucket, I would try and get your photos now (if you don't have them backed up) as I think this is the end for them pretty soon.

I really wouldn't mind paying for the bandwidth usage, if it was a reasonable fee. If it WAS $39.99 a year, plus maybe a small subscription fee, I really wouldn't have a problem with that, I get that they are a business and have to make money. But $400 per year is pretty ridiculous.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 02, 2017, 01:32:10 PM

To make things more comical (in a sad way), I tried to wholly delete my remaining free photobucket account, but because I let the paid one expire, it is giving me a popup telling me my account is restricted since I am now over the storage limits. It won't let me do anything else except go to the upgrade page, where it tries to get me to get a paid account. I contacted them with this, stating I am just trying to delete my account, which they gave me instructions to do myself in response, which I can't do because of the STUPID POP-UP!!!!!!! So, I went on the mobile app and deleted most of my photos now that they are backed up and organized on my computer and USB's, but when I went back to the website, it still claimed I had photos on there and wouldn't let me do anything.
They have to be the worst hosting site on the planet. Three years ago everything went downhill which is why I started looking elsewhere. They have horrendous customer service, and just seem to be inept at everything. It is truly amazing to me, that in 2017, with everything companies know about marketing, engagement, customer service, and just general "let's not do anything stupid" that stuff like this is still happening.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 02, 2017, 01:39:51 PM
Looks like PB has bitten me in the ass now too. >:( All of my photos are still up but I can't download anything which I guess is the whole problem here. Btw I did check & found out I'm only in the $50 plan & now with all this stupid stuff I feel they owe me a refund. How did you contact them Jon.......is there an email address somewhere on their main page? ???

I opened up a Slickpic account last night & am trying to navigate their site. I can upload alright but haven't figured out how to transfer pics to the Forum yet. ::) You might be hearing from me Jon if I need a tutorial. ;D
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 02, 2017, 01:46:48 PM

Charlie, I just went to their support page and sent them an e-mail, but it's pretty much a waste of time. The lunch I just ate could probably offer more assistance than them ::) ::)
As far as Slickpic, cool you joined the club! I have been very pleased with them compared to PB, and that was before all this went down. I would be happy to send you a tutorial in a PM, just let me know! I think we will get things back up and running, it will just take a bit of time, but I am glad that we are all still committed, I enjoy being a member here and sharing my stuff with you all, and I'm not letting a dumb hosting site screw that up.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 02, 2017, 02:09:31 PM
Jon

 I still want to post the photos I take so need someplace to host them. Like you the reason I do this is to share photos not just sit in a dimly lit room after midnight and look at them by myself. ;D :D

 All I'm getting when I try to post some photos via Slickpic is a link, no pics. Obviously I'm missing something here so i'll keep plugging along. :( You might be getting a PM from me sooner than later for some help. ;D
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 02, 2017, 02:35:07 PM
Ok no problem, I will be at work this evening as we are busy with the fourth weekend, so PM whenever and I will get back to you later tonight when I am off.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: tery on July 02, 2017, 02:56:40 PM
Will Photobucket photos that were 'stolen' and reposted to YouTube , Facebook etc without the photographers permission now simply be covered up by Photobucket ?
That would ne a nice unintended consequence of this conundrum .
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Ray F on July 02, 2017, 05:21:24 PM
In regards to their Prices ... Photobucket needs to vvvvv or Else ...LOL

(http://www.newzbreaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/tony-fuggedaboutit.jpg)

(http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.14952187.4691/fc,550x550,grass_green.u4.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Iowa80 on July 02, 2017, 06:41:06 PM

I really wouldn't mind paying for the bandwidth usage, if it was a reasonable fee. If it WAS $39.99 a year, plus maybe a small subscription fee, I really wouldn't have a problem with that, I get that they are a business and have to make money. But $400 per year is pretty ridiculous.

Jon

That's what really gets me about this situation.  It would be one thing to charge $40 per year as ransom, and while this would still be a pain I could see a lot more people sticking with Photobucket.  $400, however, is absolutely ridiculous.  I highly doubt many people pay such a price for image hosting in the first place (maybe those plans are more business oriented?), let alone when it comes out of the blue like this.  They would probably make more money and retain more customers if the price was much lower.

I don't know about the rest of you guys but I'm still having a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that they've pulled off a stunt like this.  It feels like corporate suicide; I can't conceive that whoever makes these decisions would be stupid enough to not forsee the backlash and loss of customers.  It's too bad this kind of thing isn't illegal (or is it?); would be great to see a massive class action lawsuit come out of this.  At least we're all in the same boat here - from looking at articles, forum posts, and social media comments, there are tons of people who are really pissed about this and is causing major headaches. 

It's definitely frustrating, but all we can do is slowly but surely put our pics back up and defiantly not let one photo hosting site ruin our fun.  I'm most worried about pics that are either old or from members who are no longer very active.  Otherwise, it's ultimately your choice but I hope some of you that have been affected can get your pics back up, and good luck with doing so.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: L.Dugas on July 02, 2017, 06:45:08 PM
Very disappointed when logged on tonight to post and seen what photobucket has been up to. Discouraging to say the least. It was good while it lasted. I might be 4-5 months behind on posting pics and don't give much feedback, but I enjoy this forum very much. Guess I will continue to enjoy what pictures are still here. If anyone would like to look at mine, you can look up Nova Scotia Truckers, Sou'West Nova Fish Haulers and Canadian Class or look me up on FB.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 02, 2017, 08:51:36 PM

Lee, sorry to hear this has affected you also. I will definitely check out your pages but I hope you will still consider adding your photos here as well, they are always top notch and full of variety.
Iowa80, I'm not sure it is illegal, just really not professional. A lot of rumors going around having read their FB pages that the execs are trying to fill pockets and take the cash and run as the ship goes down. Pure speculation but it would make sense. Lots of companies have folded this way, purely out of a few people wanting to get a lot of money quickly.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 03, 2017, 05:02:32 PM
Hooray!!!! So as of 5 minutes ago  (7:50 PM EST) Photobucket was up & running like nothing ever happened. 8) Maybe the ba*tards figured out they screwed up & the negative publicity was not a good thing? ??? Well hope it lasts.......we'll see. :-\
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 03, 2017, 05:09:41 PM

I am still getting the error on my pictures, though to be fair I deleted most from PB so perhaps that is why. Hopefully this means a good result for all of you affected. For me though, it doesn't matter if they fixed their mistake, I will never go back to them. They sucked before, and if they stay in business, they will continue to do so IMO.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Iowa80 on July 03, 2017, 06:42:17 PM
That's interesting.  Mine still show the error message, but since it took time for them to stop the 3rd party hosting in all their accounts perhaps it will take some time for everybody's pics to show again.  I really hope that is the case here.  I won't be going back to Photobucket again since I already began using Slickpic and redoing posts, but for the sake of other members' threads and me not having to redo every single one of my pics that would be fantastic.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: kenworthman1976 on July 04, 2017, 02:43:17 PM
I came back from vacation and my Photobucket isn't working...

All my pics are not showing up!

Anna
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: mooby346 on July 04, 2017, 04:23:04 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40492668

I didn't even think about the potential hurt it was putting on businesses, but this is a good article summing it up. PB really screwing it up with this move.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Ray F on July 04, 2017, 05:06:09 PM
What is with all these CEOs of Becoming Greedy Latelyand trying to Nickel and Dime Their Customers to death? First Take2/R* North, now this Photobucket Nonsense  :-\ ::) If it wasnt for me Disliking Spiders & Snakes, I'd give up the Internet and moving into Cave somewhere  ;D

Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: wbache on July 04, 2017, 07:30:00 PM
With the exception of most of 2013 I have most of my pics backed except some scanned pics that are on PB---I have the originals if I need them.  I have three towers and each one has an external Seagate backup 2 are 1 TB and 1 is 2 TB---Have an old Omega that is full.  At present I subscribe to  the lowest price PB program and it shows 48% full and I rarely download to  it  but  keep it so the pics on Hanks' won't disappear as they did with another program I used. At present I use Image Shack that works pretty well and has given me very little trouble but I do have a paid subscription. I also have backup to the Microsoft cloud--cost 1.79 a month---I have back up mostly because of personal files and income tax records. With no living spouse or children the next generation probably will have very little interest in truck pics.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 06, 2017, 08:42:15 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40492668

I didn't even think about the potential hurt it was putting on businesses, but this is a good article summing it up. PB really screwing it up with this move.
I saw that as well. I think the issue here really is not that they changed their policy. They shouldn't be taking a loss for people using it as a free hosting site, they are within their legal rights to charge for that. It's the outrageous price and the fact that they didn't communicate the change that everyone has a problem with. If they were to A) let people know a certain amount of days or weeks ahead of time of the change, and if they would have charged a fairer yearly price (Zenfolio is $60 per year for unlimited hosting for example), I doubt anyone would have a problem honestly. The way they handled it is where they hurt their image.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Iowa80 on July 07, 2017, 10:23:20 AM
Charlie, I don't know why your pics started showing up again but I don't think Photobucket is backtracking on what they did.  Just the opposite in fact - after doing a little research, it sounds like they finally released a statement explaining why they did this, and are standing by their decision:

http://blog.photobucket.com/photobucket-launches-unlimited-3rd-party-hosting-plan/
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/06/photobucket-complaints-over-charging/

The gist of it seems to be that too many people were using their free accounts for 3rd party hosting, and with ad blockers becoming more common they couldn't make enough money that way.  I totally understand this reasoning, but I think they handled the situation in the worst possible way.  They should have started by offering a price that is competitive, and $400 per month is anything but.  Sure, you get unlimited storage but I doubt very many people will need that much.  Also I think they needed to give advance notice about it.  Perhaps they didn't want to because it would give people time to delete their accounts and shop the competition, but that wouldn't be an issue if the price was reasonable.  It's just not fair how they made all those photos useless out of the blue like that.  I'm thinking this will still hurt them badly.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 07, 2017, 11:21:57 AM
Charlie, I don't know why your pics started showing up again but I don't think Photobucket is backtracking on what they did.
Somewhere in the last few days I thought I read that any paid plan is still able to upload photos. Although mine's only a $50 plan I figured this was the reason why but I expect that to end when my yearly plan expires in a few months.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: wayne_crane on July 07, 2017, 06:34:19 PM
It's very frustrating to have this happen when I sign on there was never any mention of 3rd party useage''165 pages'' now just to look at the photos is no longer , with Flicker I got 1 tb of free space back in  2013 when I signed on and just recently another 20gb of free space but the differance is NO AD"S OR BLOCKEAGES and Flicker is okay with 3rd party downloading so when it comes to cost Photobucket for a year 100 + or Flicker 50.00 and no blockeages ? >:( >:(
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 07, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
I don't know if PB is screwing with me or not. :-\ Received an email from PB saying I requested an email change (which I didn't) and I've been unable through their help desk to resolve this problem and the bottom line is I couldn't login. I went through all their gyrations (changed email & password) & now I'm so screwed up I don't know what my email or password is anymore & can't get feedback. >:(

Anyone else having a problem like this?
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Cardboardfido on July 07, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
Charlie, I don't know why your pics started showing up again but I don't think Photobucket is backtracking on what they did.  Just the opposite in fact - after doing a little research, it sounds like they finally released a statement explaining why they did this, and are standing by their decision:

http://blog.photobucket.com/photobucket-launches-unlimited-3rd-party-hosting-plan/
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/06/photobucket-complaints-over-charging/

The gist of it seems to be that too many people were using their free accounts for 3rd party hosting, and with ad blockers becoming more common they couldn't make enough money that way.  I totally understand this reasoning, but I think they handled the situation in the worst possible way.  They should have started by offering a price that is competitive, and $400 per month is anything but.  Sure, you get unlimited storage but I doubt very many people will need that much.  Also I think they needed to give advance notice about it.  Perhaps they didn't want to because it would give people time to delete their accounts and shop the competition, but that wouldn't be an issue if the price was reasonable.  It's just not fair how they made all those photos useless out of the blue like that.  I'm thinking this will still hurt them badly.
Interesting reading those articles mate. (thanks for sharing).
(My opinion)- Photobucket handled this very badly, (did they post this article on Social Media too?)
$400 per annum doesnt sound so bad (if you work out how much per month ($33.33)- just over $1-00 per day...I was considering it, (now I can afford it)...
But, the final decision belongs to the Consumer.  I personally, will not be "Bullied" by the totally UNprofessional tactics that PB currently employs.

Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 08, 2017, 12:14:38 PM
Jon_G has raised the question of other hosting sites doing the same thing in the future due to declining ads and how they make their money. I kind of agree with Jon and really don't trust getting on another site & seeing the same thing happen.

My question is if this is a possibility what does it bode for the future of Forums like this........what else is there that can be used to post photos? ???
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 08, 2017, 01:12:13 PM
I think if there was a way to host within a forum (which idk the logistics or financials of that), it would A) be easier to post things and B) lower the risk of this happening again but I'm sure it is not cheap to do. I am sorry to admit that after starting my gallery on flickr that I contemplated posting more photos on there because of how easy and affordable it is, along with the amount of traffic it gets. I am not saying I'm going away from the forum by any means, but unfortunately I think the process if requiring a hosting account and often having to pay for it has turned a lot of folks away, not just on our forum, but across the board. The fact that social media has a wide reach and is free is appealing to a lot of people. I really want to see this place thrive, but I don't know where we should go from here. I can only fear we may lose more people with the Photobucket issues and I don't wish that to happen :'(

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 08, 2017, 04:27:35 PM
Another interesting article on the whole Photobucket fiasco.

                   https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/big-lesson-learned-photobuckets-ransom-images-debacle-191026772.html
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Iowa80 on July 08, 2017, 05:36:53 PM
Jon, are you saying you've given up on converting your photos to Slickpic because of this?  I don't know how Photobucket is going to come out of this, but if it ends up hurting them badly, I would hope other hosting sites would use this as an example of what not to do.  Simply paying for an account should be enough to help the hosting site make money, and it shouldn't have to be at an outrageous price.  That's what really puzzles me about this, that even paid PB accounts had this happen; the management must be really hungry for money.  It's really despicable how Photobucket handled this.  I hope as a company they suffer greatly for it and serve as an example so other sites don't follow suit.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: mooby346 on July 08, 2017, 05:58:07 PM
I think 3rd party hosting is a perk that we used to take for granted, but in this age of adblockers it's a perk that we are eventually going to lose or have to pay for. I do not pay anything as it is right now, but I am prepared that some day Flickr might follow suit, and then all the work I've put in will also be wasted. So I'm resigned to the fact eventually we will have to pay for the right to share our content. I just hope that when it comes Flickr will make it reasonable, I believe Flickr Pro costs $50 a year and while the perks aren't worth it for me right now, if 3rd party hosting becomes included with it I will be willing to pay. If it's $400, then yeah I will obviously reconsider. Photobucket is a dying breed and this move won't save them. They knew a bunch of people would jump ship when they made the move.

I think if there was a way to host within a forum (which idk the logistics or financials of that), it would A) be easier to post things and B) lower the risk of this happening again but I'm sure it is not cheap to do. I am sorry to admit that after starting my gallery on flickr that I contemplated posting more photos on there because of how easy and affordable it is, along with the amount of traffic it gets. I am not saying I'm going away from the forum by any means, but unfortunately I think the process if requiring a hosting account and often having to pay for it has turned a lot of folks away, not just on our forum, but across the board. The fact that social media has a wide reach and is free is appealing to a lot of people. I really want to see this place thrive, but I don't know where we should go from here. I can only fear we may lose more people with the Photobucket issues and I don't wish that to happen :'(

Jon

Jon I had the same problem when I first made my Flickr account. As soon as I started sharing and people started liking, I was like "wow look how much exposure I'm getting." It was a big boost to my ego. But I realized Flickr is just a means to an end, which is sharing the photos with this community. Yeah I haven't been sharing as much as I want lately, but I do it when I can. Point is, Flickr is nice, having people like your photos and recognize the work is nice. But this community means more to me. You can have both, it just requires more time. Also Flickr does have ads, but to me they feel less obtrusive than other sites. I hope it bodes well for them, because if the ad money runs out they might follow PB's lead.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 08, 2017, 06:00:20 PM
Oh no not at all, I am still converting everything, I was just expressing that I was worried they may follow suit, but I think you are right, I think they will learn from this. Plus, I think Slickpic's subscription model helps them be a little less ad-dependent than Photobucket was. No, I still hope to be posting here for a long time. I think I will continue to expand my Flickr gallery as well, just to have more places to share. I am not a huge Facebook fan as far as posting photos, and Instagram is more of a post once in awhile as opposed to a ton of pictures at a time. I enjoy being a member here and I hope we are around for a long time. I think there is still interest here for sure and I enjoy sharing stuff here. I hope that these issues don't drive people away. There are other hosting sites that, even before this fiasco, were far better than Photobucket.

And Mooby, I agree with you, I think this site and Flickr are two different places. This community is a lot more focused and tighter. Both have their places and I think I am really going to enjoy using Flickr as an online gallery where I can post other photos in addition to truck stuff. I do a lot of car show photography as well as some art stuff (you can take the student out of design school but....... ;D) Anyway, I enjoy both here and Flickr and I am willing to pay for hosting as long as it is reasonable. I pay for Slickpic currently and it isn't bad at all. I think if anything this may help the others as it will show them, hey we may want to get in on the revenue but be more prepared by having a fair pricing plan.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: jredding666 on July 09, 2017, 08:25:45 AM
So what's the most affordable option to use to post here that's also mobile friendly? I already have a Flickr acct., but I can only post a link to a pic and not the actual pic on here with it. The mobile friendly thing is pretty important, if I have to sit down at my computer just to add pics here I'd rather just link them to Flickr.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: mooby346 on July 09, 2017, 12:01:42 PM
You don't have to link pictures from Flickr, on Flickr go to the picture you want, in the bottom RH corner underneath the photo is a right turn arrow for sharing. Click that, on the far right is the BB code, copy and paste that to your post here to share it. There's some extra lines of code at the end that link back to your page and to Flickr, delete those if you don't want them to show up. That's all you have to do.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: OL'TC on July 11, 2017, 04:43:48 PM
Buy an external drive and save all the pictures you can take depending on what size you buy.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: wbache on July 17, 2017, 07:13:17 PM
A few years ago I was using Web Shots and it worked really well but they did pretty much the same thing as Photo Bucket---lesson learned altho I have been backing my pics up on external drives going back further than I will probably want to look at which is about 2011.  I lost most of 2013 but the rest on on external drives.  I have a couple of dozen pics that I downloaded from photos taken with film cameras and I downloaded these from Photobucket to avoid going thru the process again. I have been using Image Shack for a couple of years and have a paid subscription but only download pics that I will post on the Forum altho that is limited mostly to the Photo of the Day which has a very few contributors.  Its easy to post on Facebook but a pic posted there is pretty perishable and disappears as soon as interest in it fades which is pretty quick for most.  I don't have any pics on Hanks main site and might possibly try to assemble a collection altho I am not familiar with the process for doing this.  As we can all see nothing is permanent (or cheap) and change comes rather quickly and the best place to preserve what we have is to back up to an external drive and for those that are important to us put them on a disc altho they have limited capacity.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Jon_G on July 17, 2017, 07:44:04 PM

I know what you mean Walt, I had contemplated printing all of mine out just to have a hard copy but I ended up backing them up as you did. As far as main site, when I set up mine (which I admittedly haven't contributed to much) I just sent Hank an e-mail stating who I was and sent him photos with captions and he set one up for me. I may send more to that in the future as well, but I hope that the other hosting sites learn from this.

Jon
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Brockway on July 27, 2017, 03:35:35 PM
Has anyone had any experience with https://postimages.org/ ?  I saw it recommended on another message board I belong to. I'll give it a try, Carl
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: charlie on July 29, 2017, 07:34:14 PM
Let us know how it turns out Carl.
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: wayne_crane on July 29, 2017, 11:39:47 PM
SlickPic is helping me out with all my posting and they even sent to emails telling that there are overwhelmed with request to sign up from ex Photo bucket people having the same issues
Title: Re: What's Up With All The Disappearing Photobucket Pics?
Post by: Brockway on July 30, 2017, 06:06:19 AM
Charlie: The postimage.org seems to be working. I'm slowly replacing my dead photobucket links. Carl