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Title: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Rob Archer on January 19, 2007, 03:29:18 PM
Doug McKenzie assembled this International Transtar Photo History :-)
The photos and captions are his: :wink:
The mistakes are likely mine: :-D


Transtar Lineage.
Began in 1965 with the introduction of the CO-4000, replacing the highly successful DCO-400 Series "Emeryville".
Pictured here is a single-axle non-sleeper CO-4000 from Adams Transport, Toronto Ontario.
Saddle-style fuel tanks are customer-specified, in this case the tractor is a former Direct-Winters Transport unit. Direct traded their whole fleet of these units around 1974. Ford dealers were selling them for about $2500 Cdn.
8V-71 Detroit engines, 10speed Roadranger transmissions.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/CO_4000_Sleeper-1.jpg)

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1967 CO-4000 sleeper.
Pretty much standard appearance for the model of that time.
Note that there is no luggage compartment door on passenger side.
This one was powered with a 238 Detroit, 10-speed Roadranger and a long, 157-inch wheelbase.
Ended it's days haulling cattle from Wellington County Ontario until an electrical short set fire to it and it was destroyed.
At the time of the picture, in October 1972, the truck had over 700,000 miles on it.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/CO_4000_Sleeper.jpg)

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CO-F4070A Transtar was we know it.
 
This one was a pretty stylish unit for it's time, 1974.
Royal Designs of Scarborough Ontario used a small fleet of 3 of these.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar_SleeperRoyalDesigns.jpg)

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Probably the most unusual member of the Transtar family would be the Unistar.
 
Conceived as a "Universal" tractor, the Unistar was unqiue in that it did not have a transfer case - instead it used an over-running clutch in the drive-line which, when the rear axle began to slip, the clutch would automatically engage the front axle.
Photographed here in 1970, between an I-H pick-up and an 800 Scout (anyone remember them?) is one of the early production units at I-H's Toronto Sales Branch in downtown Toronto.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/tn_unistar.jpg)

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Second view of the Unistar shows the 73-inch BBC day cab, enlarged air filter, inaccurate nameplate on the door - it reads Transtar - step pocket below the door and unique design to the front fenders.
This style of fender panel did not last long.
 
Colours are medium metallic blue and white, the same colours which Hanky posted earlier to get this topic rolling.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Unistar___2.jpg)

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To handle the increasing power of bigger engines, ie: the 1673T/TA Cat, Cummins NTC Series and 8V-71T Detroit, International raised the Transtar cab by 5 inches, giving more room under the cab.
In this picture of a Ryder-owned 74-inch BBC tractor, the increased height in the cab is noticed by the filler panel below the door nameplate.
Gill Truck Plaza, Berneires Quebec, 1973.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/74_inch_BBC_Transtar.jpg)

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Brand-new, awaiting an owner at the Woodbine Truck Centre, Markham Ontario in 1973.
Chrome bulet lights, chrome grille and the double bumper unique to the high-powered Transtars.
Painted in light metallic blue and white, this one was well appointed on the inside with a maroon/red interior.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/83_inch_Transtar.jpg)

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Dual exhaust stacks, double bumper and the filer panel under the cab painted black  - this one is a 4090A Super Transtar, powered by a 12V-71 Detroit.
 
Berneires Quebec, September 1973.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/4090_Super_Transtar.jpg)

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Transtar 2 as we know it.
 
Triad Truck Lease, at Scarborough Ontario in the fall of 1975.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar___2.jpg)

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Transtar 2 truck and trailer.
Leamington Ontario, 1981.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar___2_TT.jpg)

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And then there's this oddity .....
76-inch BBC Transtar 2 from Cronin Transport onto which it's owner has tack the front end of the CO-9670.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Oddity.jpg)

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Final evolution in the Transtar .... the CO-9670.
Other than the regular box cab-over cab, family styling cues can be found in the grille and the windshield.
Tractor trailer and antiques are owned by the Tackaberry family of Athens Ontario.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Tackaberry.jpg)







Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on January 20, 2007, 05:36:13 AM
Very nice!

If I read it right, you reposted a pic of a Transtar and labeled it Transtar II. That aside, those are great shots. I loved the ones with the red interior and a little more upholstery.

I neve noticed that some of the early Transtars didn't have the lower panel. Come to think of it, there was something different about the CO-4000 compared to a 4070 aside from the Transtar nameplate, and I couldn't put my finger on it. I think the panel is it.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: seventiestrucker on January 20, 2007, 08:59:59 AM
I love them from the beginning until when they switched to CO-9670. WTF did they do that?
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Rob Archer on January 20, 2007, 09:13:22 AM
Very nice!

If I read it right, you reposted a pic of a Transtar and labeled it Transtar II.



oops (heh heh...I told you who owns the mistakes :oops: :oops: :oops:)
I'll correct that one tomorrow.


*Sunday 1/21/07*
Fixed now. :wink:
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on January 20, 2007, 02:34:23 PM
I love them from the beginning until when they switched to CO-9670. WTF did they do that?

I think they did some research and found that drivers want a quieter, roomier cab. Then they had this theory that if more people liked the truck, they would sell more of them.
That cab style was in production for the North American market more than 3 times longer than the 4000,4070A, or 4070B-maybe they were onto something.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Bill McCullough on January 20, 2007, 03:32:01 PM
Thanks Doug for the lesson.

The last truck my dad drove when he retired about 8 years ago was a new International cabover, he said it was a far better truck than people think.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on January 21, 2007, 10:17:28 AM
There's a truck in there that I didn't notice the last time I looked :-P.

The Triad Truck Lease T II looks reminds me of Riss International. They had those same stripes and painted bumper in sort of a light purple color.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on January 21, 2007, 10:37:32 AM

Triad Trucklease was an outfit spun off from a Canadian bulk/bag cement carrier called Triad Truckways Limited.

Their colours were 2-tone grey - the door lettering, the TT, was in orange and purple.

Amongst the first of many to get into the truck rental/leasing phase, Triad was also one of the first to go under, even pulling the carrier down with it.
I don't remember much about it - MAGMAN was here in Ontario back then and I do remember at the time his memory was sharper.
Several years later I worked for glass manufacturer Pilkington Glass - to where this particular Transtar II was leased and photographed - and the truck I was assigned, a White Road Ross with an Atlas crane still carried it's original Triad Trucklease logo.

Glad you ejoyed the pictures.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: c.j. hall on January 21, 2007, 05:57:59 PM
If I drove for Pilkington Glass I would have picked that fine Kenworth set back axle with the nice airtight cab and warm heater compared to the rattly Triad Transtar. Remember Mr. McKenzie........... I'm just doin to it like Sonny Pruitt use to do it, 10'4 break break driver.............
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on January 22, 2007, 01:10:19 AM

Get your tongue out of your cheek smart-ass.

They were all gone when I got there.

And besides, I'm waiting for the questions about "What kind of Kenworth is it?" from others on this board.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Pogo Stick on January 22, 2007, 02:30:20 AM
Looks a bit like a T 800 H or the forerunner to it.

We had a C 500 that was a SBA but fenders were a bit different , was a piece of junk  :roll: was spec'd for the job it was to do but was not built to spec :-o
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on January 22, 2007, 03:02:59 AM

For the fans the Kenworth is a W-900 S - 12.

Short-nosed tractor. They were introduced in and around 1970 - sales literature sold them as "Big City Kenworths".
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: wig wag on January 26, 2007, 01:36:03 PM
Thanks for the memories, Doug. I drove one of those ex Direct Winters units when I worked for George McRae at Diamond Leasing
in Oakville. The thing went like a bat outta hell. The rear suspesion was so worn out you had to be careful on lift off or you'd :-o get the
engine running backwards. The transmission went out on the Chicago Skyway bridge and that was the end of her,she "Big Red" never came home. They towed it to the 76 on Ashland ave.
The truck like pic #2, I drove for G.E. in Oakville in 76. When we had one of our Freigtliners down they would get a repacement truck from Lincoln Leasing in Buffalo. They sent up a single axle 6-71. I remember being pushed against the curb by the wind while crossing the Burlington bridge in a snow storm! On a happier note, the truck had a good radio. Many a night I would brake the monotony of bucking a headwind across I-90 by leaning over the dog house and listening to see how far away the AM stations
where transmitting from.
I remember Warren Whitley had some small sleeper units with VT-903's  I even saw a couple that had KT-450's with dual 4" stacks.
I think the ones that Triad had may have been 350 Detroits as I dont recall seeing any up at Cummin's   
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on January 26, 2007, 05:12:22 PM

Warren Whitley supplied Transtars - 73-inch "day cabs" with Detroits to Trent Valley Paper Mills and Strathcona Paper in Napanee.

Both of those paper mills remained loyal to Warren Whitley even in the Rentway days, ie: R-Model Macks and WhiteGMC's (or Volvos to some).
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Paul Kane on January 26, 2007, 05:27:27 PM
Quote
Short-nosed tractor. They were introduced in and around 1970 - sales literature sold them as "Big City Kenworths".

Doug, I thought the S12 had the regular length hood with a set-back axle.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: wbache on February 04, 2007, 09:19:02 AM
A good history lesson on Transtars. As noted they did raise the cab in the early 70's which to me was most notable in the larger grill. Navajo had a bunch of them.  When I worked for General Cable they used to rent  trucks from Ryder when we went thru a transition from Mack FL's to GMC Astro's in 1975. One of the drivers jack knifed one of their Transtars and we had to drive it that way for a couple of months with the right side tool box compartment caved in.  In 1977 the Astro's started to leave and were replaced by Transtars. the Transtars started phasing out in 1981 with the arrival of some new Freightliners leased from Greyhound. My bid truck was still a Transtar but the guy who bid one of the Freightliners was sick so I got to drive his Freightliner which didn't last for long as the doors closed in April 82.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: 2spot on February 04, 2007, 11:44:12 AM
Doug, I thought the S12 had the regular length hood with a set-back axle.
I second that. I thought the S-12 was more or less a W-900 with a 12" axle setback.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on February 04, 2007, 12:01:33 PM

You might be right.

I'll have to dig out my literature.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: soapman on February 06, 2007, 01:17:54 PM
look what was on David Faust's Carstensen Freight Lines page-to the left-looks like its maybe one of those of those Unistars
mentioned in this lineage forum
(http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/donq/carstensen_int_4070b_gmc_astro.jpg)

Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on February 07, 2007, 01:58:14 PM
look what was on David Faust's Carstensen Freight Lines page-to the left-looks like its maybe one of those of those Unistars
mentioned in this lineage forum
(http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/donq/carstensen_int_4070b_gmc_astro.jpg)



I'm gonna guess it's a standard 4070-A Transtar with the nameplate missing off the bottom of the door.

I'll even take it a step further and say that the Driver's side headlight surround on the Titan 90 is from an Astro 95.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Paul Kane on February 07, 2007, 02:50:42 PM
Quote
I'm gonna guess it's a standard 4070-A Transtar with the nameplate missing off the bottom of the door.

I'll even take it a step further and say that the Driver's side headlight surround on the Titan 90 is from an Astro 95.


...but it probably would take you three days to notice your wife got her hair done! :lol: :lol:

(just kidding)
 
 
 
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on February 07, 2007, 02:58:54 PM


...but it probably would take you three days to notice your wife got her hair done! :lol: :lol:

(just kidding)

Your accuracy and timing is impeccable. Just last week I blew another opportunity to prove that I pay attention to her.

Yep, it was the hair.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on February 08, 2007, 01:45:13 AM

We have a whole new bathroom renovation which I haven't said much about ......

..... but that's a Transtar missing the name plate on the bottom of the passenger door and it has the 73-inch "day cab".

There would be no mattress behind the seats, just the tray, so if your relay was late at your switch/relay point, I huess if you wanted to lay back there and sleep amongst the dust, dirt and garbage which probably accumulated back there you could.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Rob Archer on February 08, 2007, 07:30:32 AM
Paul Kane sent this picture of a Super Transtar he shot in Ontario in 1981:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Walmsley_TranstarPaulKanephoto.jpg)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: c.j. hall on February 08, 2007, 10:54:16 AM
hey Doug whats with that air clenner inlet on the Walmsley Transtar. Never seen a Transtar centre mounted. Rob Walmsley is still in buisness they run mostly Paystars down near Chatham, I think.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on February 09, 2007, 01:48:45 PM
Paul Kane sent this picture of a Super Transtar he shot in Ontario in 1981:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Walmsley_TranstarPaulKanephoto.jpg)

The corner pieces where the headlights are mounted look taller, I never noticed that before. So now I guess I have to by the Transtar a box of chocolates for V-Day and promise to pay more attention to it. :roll:

We have a whole new bathroom renovation which I haven't said much about ......

That wouldn't take long for me to comment on. Not so much the bathroom as the huge dent in the checkbook.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Troy M. - 10-4 Magazine on February 10, 2007, 08:17:08 AM
I always loved the early Transtar's. IT's hard to place why, because, if we're talking about classic styling they're not the most exemplary truck to display that styling. But, then again, I think that's what I liked about the Transtar's. They're like the un-loved ugly ducklings. They've got a real "I'm hideous, but still mean" look to them. If I had a chance, I'd certainly drive one.

Thanks for the pics.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on February 10, 2007, 09:41:32 AM

Chris, if you consider Larry Heyn's comments in the earlier post about the Transtar, you'll remember he commented that the air cleaner was located in a place which could catch alot of tire debris.

My thinking here with the Walmsley unit would be, remove the air cleaner and place it directly behind the cab - in that way there would be a simple, almost straight connection from the air cleaner to the airbox shut down housing attop the blowers.

In place of the air cleaner could possibly be the hydraulic tank for the wet-line.

Troy - thanks for the comments about the photos.
We weren't discussing the Transtar in a classic sense here - the topic was covered in a much earlier post in this forum but since there were so many questions in regards to the variations over the truck's production life, it was felt that a photo essay might help to clarify the differences.

If anything by it's lack of classic "box style" the Transtar was different in itself.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Mackinac359 on February 11, 2007, 03:33:28 AM
Many of the taller Transtars (I's) with the filler panel under the door were co4090's. 

Tim
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: c.j. hall on February 11, 2007, 05:47:57 AM
Hey Tim,
If you read page 1 of this thread Doug shows us all the different model numbers and pics of the progression of the Transtar. He has some cool pics of the co4090 and how you can tell the differences. Doug did a beautiful model of a 4090 back in the eighties I wish he would post a pic of it here for all to see.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on February 11, 2007, 07:23:28 AM

Here's a link to the picture Chris mentioned;

www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/dmckenzie/models/transtar_4070a1.jpg

Due to the choice of colour, black, most will probably have a difficult time noticing the raised cab and filler panel below the door.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on February 11, 2007, 12:09:08 PM
Nice model.

70B-interesting choice for the unit number.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: charlie on February 25, 2007, 02:06:57 PM
Just wanted to add a couple more to the collection. Always one of my favorite trucks; Santa brought my son a toy truck just like the Transtar II in the 1st picture back around 1979 or so. I confess he had a hard time getting it away from me.  :-D

O/O Transtar II i spotted in Asbury Park NJ. Running strong in May 2003 when i snapped this pic.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/charlied_02/Album2/th_scan0057-2.jpg) (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/charlied_02/Album2/scan0057-2.jpg)
CO4070 "For Sale" in New Smithsville PA 3-8-02.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/charlied_02/Album2/th_scan0081-2.jpg) (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/charlied_02/Album2/scan0081-2.jpg)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: seventiestrucker on March 19, 2007, 08:39:15 AM
Remember when they had the Eagle Version. http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/bullnoze/ihc/dealer_transtar2_eagle.jpg :mrgreen:
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: binder_boy on March 19, 2007, 03:35:46 PM
i am proud of most binders  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: binder_boy on March 21, 2007, 07:39:21 AM
love those binders
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: French Fry on March 22, 2007, 08:01:59 AM
I think we could have guessed that by your name.  :wink:  :-D
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: wbache on March 22, 2007, 09:20:23 AM
How many of you have seen a real Corn Binder or know what it is and what it does??
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: jake on March 22, 2007, 12:56:03 PM
How many of you have seen a real Corn Binder or know what it is and what it does??
YES SIR I HAVE SEEN THEM. I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND I KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

PLEASE NOTE I ANSWERED YOUR 3 QUESTIONS!!
 :-D :-D :-D :-D :evil: :evil: :evil:
JAKE
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: wbache on March 22, 2007, 04:12:31 PM
YES SIR I HAVE SEEN THEM. I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND I KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

PLEASE NOTE I ANSWERED YOUR 3 QUESTIONS!!
 :-D :-D :-D :-D :evil: :evil: :evil:
JAKE

there are probably some people on the forum who haven't and would like to know more specifics and since you know you might want to expand on your comments.








Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: jake on March 23, 2007, 02:35:04 PM
WBACHE YOU FORGOT TO ADD 'PLEASE'!!
ANYWAY, I FIGURED I WOULD HEAR ABOUT IT, BUT I DID ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!! 8-)

A CORN BINDER IS NOT A TRUCK!!! :-o :-o
A CORN BINDER IS A CORN BINDER!!!! :-o AND IT BINDS CORN!!

OK, IT CUTS ONE ROW OF CORN AT A TIME AND TAKES A BUNDLE OF STALKS AND PUTS STRING AROUND THE BUNDLE AND DROPS IT ON THE GROUND. (THIS IS USED FOR CORN THAT GOES IN A SILO FOR CATTLE FEED).  LATER A WAGON COMES AROUND AND THE CORN IS TAKEN TO THE SILO AND PUT INTO A 'CUTTING BOX' AND IT GETS CHOPPED UP AND BLOWN UP INTO THE SILO!!  TODAY AND FOR MOST OF THE LAST 50 YEARS THE CORN IS CHOPPED UP RIGHT IN THE FIELD, BLOWN INTO A WAGON AND BROUGHT UP TO THE SILO.  NO MANUAL LABOUR INVOLVED.
MC CORMICK DEERING CO. MADE A SUCESSFULL CORN BINDER ALONG WITH TRACTORS AND OTHER FARM EQUIPTMENT.  LATER ON THE NAME CHANGED AND INTERNATIONAL CAME INTO BEING.  BUT THE NAME BINDER GOT STUCK ON THEIR TRUCKS AND IT IS STILL ON THERE TODAY!!!

IT SEEMS NOT MANY ON THIS FORUM KNOW ABOUT THIS!!

I HAVE 3 PICTURES OF CORN BINDERS, THEY ARE COPYRITED AND I GOT THEM OFF ANOTHER SITE. YOU MAY BE ABLE TO FIND THEM IF YOU SEARCH FOR "YESTERDA'S TRACTORS".  OR SEND ME YOUR E-MAIL.

FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE USA, VISIT THE AMISH OR MINNONITES!! THEY STILL USE THEM AND WITH REAL HORSE POWER!!

JUST A GUESS.  YOU JUST READ SOMETHING AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT I WROTE.
MAYBE START A POLL AND IF YOU READ THE ABOVE, EXPLAIN WHAT YOU THINK I SAID PLEASE. :evil:
JAKE


Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: wbache on March 23, 2007, 04:16:35 PM
OK--That is a pretty good explanation and discription and you covered the subject very well. I grew up on a dairy farm in Cortland Co. in Upstate NY and about all that was grown was Hay -Corn for silage and Oats. My father had a steel silo painted silver and when the sun hit it we could see it from quite a distance. Since McCormick developed the grain reaper I never figured out why corn binder was used in referring to International trucks as a number of other manufacturers also made corn binders notably John Deere.
Title: Corn Binders Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Rob Archer on March 24, 2007, 01:58:31 AM
Jake...being a man of much experience ( you will note that I didn't say "old") hit the nail on the head. I was going to reply that I had never seen a corn binder in operation, even though I am a man of middle(age) experience. I had forgotten about the Old Order Mennonites located in southern Ontario near St Jacobs who still farm in a non-powered environment.
In the late 1960's and early 1970's I worked for a firewood hauler who bought wood from the Mennonites and hauled it to Toronto.
I saw many Mennonite farms up close and saw how they managed to get by without any mechanical sources of power or electricity.
Their horse power came from horses.

I imagine that the term "BINDER" came into use because the terms tractors, plows(ploughs) and combines were already being used to describe various trucking equipment.
It showed International Harvester's farm machinery heritage.

Have we beat this old plow-horse to death by now?




Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: charlie on March 24, 2007, 02:03:09 AM
As a city boy who buys his CORN in a can at the local Shop-Rite and puts his papers in a 3 ring BINDER i found this thread quite interesting and informative.  :-D

Thanks all
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on March 24, 2007, 02:22:05 AM
As a city boy who buys his CORN in a can at the local Shop-Rite and puts his papers in a 3 ring BINDER i found this thread quite interesting and informative.  :-D

Thanks all


10-4 Charlie!

Now to add further confusion, I'm still looking for the biggest, baddest 9900 IX that says "Chatham Wagon" on it as opposed to Cornfield Cadillac or as one of our International owners has " .... she thinks my tractor's sexy!"
Title: Re: Corn Binders Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: jake on March 24, 2007, 03:49:39 AM
I saw many Mennonite farms up close and saw how they managed to get by without any mechanical sources of power or electricity.
Their horse power came from horses.

I imagine that the term "BINDER" came into use because the terms tractors, plows(ploughs) and combines were already being used to describe various trucking equipment.
It showed International Harvester's farm machinery heritage.

Have we beat this old plow-horse to death by now?

HELLO ROB! YOU UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT BY 'REAL HORSE POWER'!!
AS FOR THE WORD 'BINDER', AND THIS IS A GOOD 'GUESS' BUT GRAIN (OATS AND WHEAT)  WERE ALSO CALLED BINDERS, SO TO KEEP THEM SEPARATETHE WORD 'CORN' WAS PUT IN FRONT OF IT TO DISTINGUISH THE TWO!


DOUG MCKENZIE: I CAN'T HELP YOU WITH YOU CORN FIELD CADDY OR YOUR SEXY TRACTOR!!

AS FOR CHARLIE : 3 RING CIRCUS, I MEAN 3 RING BINDER. CORN COMES IN CANS AND MILK COMES IN CARTONS AND MONEY GROWS ON TREES!!

WBACHE;  YES JOHN DEERE MADE A BINDERS TOO AND THERE IS A GOOD ONE ON THE SITE I MENTIONED ABOVE.
 I DON'T KNOW ALL THE NAME CHANGES BUT IT USED TO BE CALLED "INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER
'  THE HARVESTER PART GOT DROPPED TO GET AWAY FROM THE FARMING IMAGE.  YOU CAN SEE THE "IH" SYMBOL IN THE OLD PICTURES THAT HANKY HAS POSTED IN THE PRE 1960 ERA.   


JAKE
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: wbache on March 24, 2007, 04:05:53 AM
Glad we all have a sense of humor and having milked cows and shoveled manure as well as pitching hay before field balers came on the scene I remember that summer vacation only meant we didn't have to go to school. I have several books on tractors and farm equipment and my brother and his son have restored a couple of tractors. And so we stay on the subject of trucks our milk hauler always had a ton and a half Dodge with a twelve foot stake rack body to haul the 10 gallon cans that were used before the tank trucks that are now used for on farm pickup. He usually got a new one every two years. My Dad had an IH Farmall H tractor.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Rob Archer on March 24, 2007, 04:50:26 AM
I can relate to wbache's comments; and I think Jake must've grown up on a farm too.
I worked for a farmer while going to high school and this man was stuck in the 1930's and 40's.
Ha had no new machinery; his truck was a '54 Ford and his tractor a '48 CASE.
We dug potatoes with a contraption that was dragged through the potato field by the tractor. It had a seat like a spring harrow but the digger was pedalled like a bicycle. It would've worked for a Mennonite providing it was hauled by a team instead of a '48 Case.

I have a picture somewhere of the roadside market we ran. It was simplicity itself.

So I have always known that corn doesn't grow in cans and not all apples are perfectly red and round.
This is a great thread guys; thanks for the memories.

 
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DIESEL-FUMES on April 02, 2007, 06:51:07 AM


 Help!!!

 I thought that I was aware of all the transtars models. But after a friend of mine, sent this to me. I'm not to sure any more. It says the truck is a loadstar but it sure looks like a transtar to me.  :|

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INTERNATIONAL-LOADSTAR-CABOVER-VERY-CLEAN_W0QQitemZ290098841243QQcategoryZ80760QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INTERNATIONAL-LOADSTAR-CABOVER-VERY-CLEAN_W0QQitemZ290098841243QQcategoryZ80760QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Terry T on April 02, 2007, 01:51:50 PM

 Help!!!

 I thought that I was aware of all the transtars models. But after a friend of mine, sent this to me. I'm not to sure any more. It says the truck is a loadstar but it sure looks like a transtar to me.  :|


It is a Transtar.  If you scan all the way down to the Q & A you will see comments about the fact that seller posted it wrong. 
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: seventiestrucker on April 04, 2007, 10:37:01 AM
Josh has a picture of a Unistar Transtar belonging to Robinson.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Rob Archer on April 04, 2007, 11:46:17 AM
Josh has a picture of a Unistar Transtar belonging to Robinson.


That's nice; but please I don't want a report on everything that Josh has on his site.
This is at least the secind thread where you have made a comment that:
"Josh has..."
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: seventiestrucker on April 04, 2007, 11:52:35 AM
Sorry for that then. Didn't mean to offend.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: seventiestrucker on July 30, 2007, 04:07:40 PM
Doug, is it true that there were only 62 4090 Super Transtars made?
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: braziliantrucks on August 06, 2007, 03:31:28 AM
Realiy nice pics!
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: krooser on August 27, 2007, 11:36:52 AM
Very nice!

If I read it right, you reposted a pic of a Transtar and labeled it Transtar II. That aside, those are great shots. I loved the ones with the red interior and a little more upholstery.

I neve noticed that some of the early Transtars didn't have the lower panel. Come to think of it, there was something different about the CO-4000 compared to a 4070 aside from the Transtar nameplate, and I couldn't put my finger on it. I think the panel is it.
The CO 4000's cab was mounted lower. The CO 4070 had a raised cab to accomodate trucks with blowers...the 4000 couldn't accomodate turbocharged engines.

I feel left out that we didn't get a history lesson on the Transtar conventional like my 13 letter Manure Spreader...
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/krooser/IMAG0085.jpg)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: wig wag on August 28, 2007, 03:44:21 AM
I remember being involved with at least two 4300's  that Labatts owned.  We had to drop
the engines down 3" between the frame rails.
These trucks came with naturaly asperated Cummins V-903's. Cummins Engine Company
decided to turbocharge these engines to make them more "socialy acceptible" and the
exhaust manifold collector pipes and turbo would not fit under the front of the firewall.
As the new trucks joined the fleet the problem had been corrected at the factory, and
we didn't have to modify any other units.
It was during these refits that I came to recognize the 4300 series as a well put together
truck for the most part. One bad aspect I recall was the front engine mount setup they
used with the NTC engines. The front mounts where two seperate pieces that bolted
through the front cover into the block. These bolts would loosen over time and the engine would drop and then the turbo oil feed line wound come into contact with the alternator power wire
or frame rail flange and lead to an engine failure it not caught in time.
Dodge CL model had a raised cab option to handle this engine also. Proctors cartage had
one of these high cab units.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: krooser on August 28, 2007, 02:31:56 PM
I remember being involved with at least two 4300's  that Labatts owned.  We had to drop
the engines down 3" between the frame rails.
These trucks came with naturaly asperated Cummins V-903's. Cummins Engine Company
decided to turbocharge these engines to make them more "socialy acceptible" and the
exhaust manifold collector pipes and turbo would not fit under the front of the firewall.
As the new trucks joined the fleet the problem had been corrected at the factory, and
we didn't have to modify any other units.
It was during these refits that I came to recognize the 4300 series as a well put together
truck for the most part. One bad aspect I recall was the front engine mount setup they
used with the NTC engines. The front mounts where two seperate pieces that bolted
through the front cover into the block. These bolts would loosen over time and the engine would drop and then the turbo oil feed line wound come into contact with the alternator power wire
or frame rail flange and lead to an engine failure it not caught in time.
Dodge CL model had a raised cab option to handle this engine also. Proctors cartage had
one of these high cab units.
I'll take a look at my front mounts. My 4300 came with a 318 and this engine found it's way into this truck about 10 years ago.

I always liked the way IHC put a truck together...I look at the wiiring and it's easy to fix and simple n design, The truck was well made and designed. The only thing weird is the heater set-up where it's part of the jump seat and uses a false floor to direct warm air to the defrosters.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: james on September 10, 2007, 03:12:19 PM
don't know this may or may not be off topic????

THE NEW 2008 TRANSTAR(my company truck)ISX Cummins ect...
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p223/eezerz/truckpictures/focus074.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p223/eezerz/truckpictures/focus073.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p223/eezerz/truckpictures/focus075.jpg)
notice the new high tech muffler? gotta love technology(not)....
just thought i'd add to the transtar history, great trucks, even today believe it or not...
personally i like the old cabovers...
 :-D
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: krooser on September 11, 2007, 03:36:29 AM
Is it my eyes or is that muffler really big?
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Aaron from PA & NC on September 30, 2007, 08:41:40 AM
Is it my eyes or is that muffler really big?

its called the diesel particulate filter(dpf), and they build the muffler within' the dpf, so yeah you could say the muffler is that big
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: ddot430 on November 04, 2007, 07:41:13 PM
Doug McKenzie assembled this International Transtar Photo History :-)
The photos and captions are his: :wink:
The mistakes are likely mine: :-D


Transtar Lineage.
Began in 1965 with the introduction of the CO-4000, replacing the highly successful DCO-400 Series "Emeryville".
Pictured here is a single-axle non-sleeper CO-4000 from Adams Transport, Toronto Ontario.
Saddle-style fuel tanks are customer-specified, in this case the tractor is a former Direct-Winters Transport unit. Direct traded their whole fleet of these units around 1974. Ford dealers were selling them for about $2500 Cdn.
8V-71 Detroit engines, 10speed Roadranger transmissions.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/CO_4000_Sleeper-1.jpg)

******************************************************

1967 CO-4000 sleeper.
Pretty much standard appearance for the model of that time.
Note that there is no luggage compartment door on passenger side.
This one was powered with a 238 Detroit, 10-speed Roadranger and a long, 157-inch wheelbase.
Ended it's days haulling cattle from Wellington County Ontario until an electrical short set fire to it and it was destroyed.
At the time of the picture, in October 1972, the truck had over 700,000 miles on it.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/CO_4000_Sleeper.jpg)

************************************************************

CO-F4070A Transtar was we know it.
 
This one was a pretty stylish unit for it's time, 1974.
Royal Designs of Scarborough Ontario used a small fleet of 3 of these.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar_SleeperRoyalDesigns.jpg)

*******************************************************

Probably the most unusual member of the Transtar family would be the Unistar.
 
Conceived as a "Universal" tractor, the Unistar was unqiue in that it did not have a transfer case - instead it used an over-running clutch in the drive-line which, when the rear axle began to slip, the clutch would automatically engage the front axle.
Photographed here in 1970, between an I-H pick-up and an 800 Scout (anyone remember them?) is one of the early production units at I-H's Toronto Sales Branch in downtown Toronto.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/tn_unistar.jpg)

**********************************************************

Second view of the Unistar shows the 73-inch BBC day cab, enlarged air filter, inaccurate nameplate on the door - it reads Transtar - step pocket below the door and unique design to the front fenders.
This style of fender panel did not last long.
 
Colours are medium metallic blue and white, the same colours which Hanky posted earlier to get this topic rolling.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Unistar___2.jpg)

********************************************************

To handle the increasing power of bigger engines, ie: the 1673T/TA Cat, Cummins NTC Series and 8V-71T Detroit, International raised the Transtar cab by 5 inches, giving more room under the cab.
In this picture of a Ryder-owned 74-inch BBC tractor, the increased height in the cab is noticed by the filler panel below the door nameplate.
Gill Truck Plaza, Berneires Quebec, 1973.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/74_inch_BBC_Transtar.jpg)

**********************************************************

Brand-new, awaiting an owner at the Woodbine Truck Centre, Markham Ontario in 1973.
Chrome bulet lights, chrome grille and the double bumper unique to the high-powered Transtars.
Painted in light metallic blue and white, this one was well appointed on the inside with a maroon/red interior.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/83_inch_Transtar.jpg)

*********************************************************
Dual exhaust stacks, double bumper and the filer panel under the cab painted black  - this one is a 4090A Super Transtar, powered by a 12V-71 Detroit.
 
Berneires Quebec, September 1973.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/4090_Super_Transtar.jpg)

***********************************************************

Transtar 2 as we know it.
 
Triad Truck Lease, at Scarborough Ontario in the fall of 1975.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar___2.jpg)

***********************************************************

Transtar 2 truck and trailer.
Leamington Ontario, 1981.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar___2_TT.jpg)

*********************************************************

And then there's this oddity .....
76-inch BBC Transtar 2 from Cronin Transport onto which it's owner has tack the front end of the CO-9670.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Oddity.jpg)

**************************************************

Final evolution in the Transtar .... the CO-9670.
Other than the regular box cab-over cab, family styling cues can be found in the grille and the windshield.
Tractor trailer and antiques are owned by the Tackaberry family of Athens Ontario.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Tackaberry.jpg)








the old yellow Interational - one like this was used in a Burt Renylds movie called "hooper"
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: seventiestrucker on November 04, 2007, 07:54:30 PM
Yes but it was the Transtar II.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: ddot430 on February 03, 2008, 09:08:39 PM
Doug McKenzie assembled this International Transtar Photo History :-)
The photos and captions are his: :wink:
The mistakes are likely mine: :-D


Transtar Lineage.
Began in 1965 with the introduction of the CO-4000, replacing the highly successful DCO-400 Series "Emeryville".
Pictured here is a single-axle non-sleeper CO-4000 from Adams Transport, Toronto Ontario.
Saddle-style fuel tanks are customer-specified, in this case the tractor is a former Direct-Winters Transport unit. Direct traded their whole fleet of these units around 1974. Ford dealers were selling them for about $2500 Cdn.
8V-71 Detroit engines, 10speed Roadranger transmissions.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/CO_4000_Sleeper-1.jpg)

******************************************************

1967 CO-4000 sleeper.
Pretty much standard appearance for the model of that time.
Note that there is no luggage compartment door on passenger side.
This one was powered with a 238 Detroit, 10-speed Roadranger and a long, 157-inch wheelbase.
Ended it's days haulling cattle from Wellington County Ontario until an electrical short set fire to it and it was destroyed.
At the time of the picture, in October 1972, the truck had over 700,000 miles on it.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/CO_4000_Sleeper.jpg)

************************************************************

CO-F4070A Transtar was we know it.
 
This one was a pretty stylish unit for it's time, 1974.
Royal Designs of Scarborough Ontario used a small fleet of 3 of these.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar_SleeperRoyalDesigns.jpg)

*******************************************************

Probably the most unusual member of the Transtar family would be the Unistar.
 
Conceived as a "Universal" tractor, the Unistar was unqiue in that it did not have a transfer case - instead it used an over-running clutch in the drive-line which, when the rear axle began to slip, the clutch would automatically engage the front axle.
Photographed here in 1970, between an I-H pick-up and an 800 Scout (anyone remember them?) is one of the early production units at I-H's Toronto Sales Branch in downtown Toronto.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/tn_unistar.jpg)

**********************************************************

Second view of the Unistar shows the 73-inch BBC day cab, enlarged air filter, inaccurate nameplate on the door - it reads Transtar - step pocket below the door and unique design to the front fenders.
This style of fender panel did not last long.
 
Colours are medium metallic blue and white, the same colours which Hanky posted earlier to get this topic rolling.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Unistar___2.jpg)

********************************************************

To handle the increasing power of bigger engines, ie: the 1673T/TA Cat, Cummins NTC Series and 8V-71T Detroit, International raised the Transtar cab by 5 inches, giving more room under the cab.
In this picture of a Ryder-owned 74-inch BBC tractor, the increased height in the cab is noticed by the filler panel below the door nameplate.
Gill Truck Plaza, Berneires Quebec, 1973.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/74_inch_BBC_Transtar.jpg)

**********************************************************

Brand-new, awaiting an owner at the Woodbine Truck Centre, Markham Ontario in 1973.
Chrome bulet lights, chrome grille and the double bumper unique to the high-powered Transtars.
Painted in light metallic blue and white, this one was well appointed on the inside with a maroon/red interior.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/83_inch_Transtar.jpg)

*********************************************************
Dual exhaust stacks, double bumper and the filer panel under the cab painted black  - this one is a 4090A Super Transtar, powered by a 12V-71 Detroit.
 
Berneires Quebec, September 1973.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/4090_Super_Transtar.jpg)

***********************************************************

Transtar 2 as we know it.
 
Triad Truck Lease, at Scarborough Ontario in the fall of 1975.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar___2.jpg)

***********************************************************

Transtar 2 truck and trailer.
Leamington Ontario, 1981.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Transtar___2_TT.jpg)

*********************************************************

And then there's this oddity .....
76-inch BBC Transtar 2 from Cronin Transport onto which it's owner has tack the front end of the CO-9670.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Oddity.jpg)

**************************************************

Final evolution in the Transtar .... the CO-9670.
Other than the regular box cab-over cab, family styling cues can be found in the grille and the windshield.
Tractor trailer and antiques are owned by the Tackaberry family of Athens Ontario.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/bluejaysfan/Transtar%20Photo%20History/Tackaberry.jpg)









I remember seeing a ryder truck like this one in a movie
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: RD600_Mack on February 03, 2008, 10:40:26 PM
Thats an Awesome Job You did on The International Transtar COEs Doug  :-D :-D Congratulations  :-D :-D
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Hanky on May 05, 2008, 02:23:12 AM
Public Freightways in B.C. bought 6 International (Unistar) :?, 4 wheel drive trucks. These were to run the Fraser Canyon and the Hope-Princeton.  They did not work out at all.  Just not enough truck for the # of axles on the trailers they were pulling. 4 trucks crashed and Public lost 3 drivers, and sold the other 2 trucks.
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/hanky_bucket/62-1.gif)

Hanky
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: ddot430 on July 06, 2008, 10:08:58 AM
international cabover - rate up there with 379 petes
Title: cabover collection
Post by: caboverking on July 13, 2008, 01:39:34 AM
 :-) Hi, I have a 14 and still  growing cabover collection. I think this is the best web site ever. My collection ranges from 1968 to 1987. I'm not real good with computers so I'll try to put pictures on. I Have 2 early Dodge's, 2 GMC Astro's, 1975 Ford W 9000, 1972 White 7400, 1973 Frieghtliner, 1979 Transtar, 3 Kenworth K100's, 2 Pete 352's, and a Pete 362. Like I Said great web site keep up the good work eveyone.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DIESEL-FUMES on August 06, 2008, 02:17:34 PM

 Ok heres my first question about my new toy. On the dash there is a gauge that says "Fuel pressure". Then right below it is a knob that pulls out. almost seems like you can pump it, but I'm not sure since I haven't used it. Does any one know what it is and how to use it. My 74 transtar has the 300 Cummings.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: wig wag on August 11, 2008, 08:09:10 AM
This is a cold weather starting aid.  If you look at the intake manifold there will be a #4 air line
that is hooked up to a fuel atomizer. right beside it there should be what looks like a glow plug.
There should be a switch to turn on the glow plug. You pump up the fuel and it spreys onto the
hot glow plug while you crank the engine.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: charlie on November 24, 2008, 01:49:28 PM
Here's a fixer upper i finally got to photograph after passing it by for at least 10 years.  :-) It's For Sale for $3500 and it's sitting in a company yard in Howell NJ. 1978 Transtar II single axle, rebuilt 13 speed 350 Cummins with 12,000 miles on it. Sadly most of the damage has occurred since the truck's been in this yard.

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/chuckyd_72/th_11-24-08Freehold-Howellpics022.jpg) (http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/chuckyd_72/11-24-08Freehold-Howellpics022.jpg)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/chuckyd_72/th_11-24-08Freehold-Howellpics020.jpg) (http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/chuckyd_72/11-24-08Freehold-Howellpics020.jpg)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Chase on November 24, 2008, 04:19:06 PM
very cool pics man


ive always liked those old transtars :mrgreen:
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Wee Willy on November 26, 2008, 01:18:18 AM
Hey Doug, hope you don't mind me posting these on this thread, first time.

1986 IH 9670 I spotted the other day, belongs to a local farmer, ex Triline truck.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/th_DSC_0002.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/DSC_0002.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/th_DSC_0003-1.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/DSC_0003-1.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/th_DSC_0004-1.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/DSC_0004-1.jpg)

Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: norseman on November 26, 2008, 10:16:34 AM
A little unimportant detail, but still: does anyone know why IH went from windshield wipers mounted at the bottom of the windshield to wipers mounted at the top on the Transtar 2?

Jan.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Leonard on November 26, 2008, 11:46:34 AM
jan im not sure but i sure think that they did a better job at clearing more of the windshield
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on November 26, 2008, 03:40:00 PM
A little unimportant detail, but still: does anyone know why IH went from windshield wipers mounted at the bottom of the windshield to wipers mounted at the top on the Transtar 2?

Jan.

Probably servince accessibility.

With the wipers mounted in the header above the windshield, you removed four screws on the panels and had instant access.

With the original cab going back to the CO-4000, you had to take the dash apart to work on the wipers.

Top-mounted wipers weren't the greatest - you'd use the washer to clear the windshield and any washer that remained on the blades ran down the windshield in front of you.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: doug mckenzie on November 26, 2008, 03:40:59 PM
Hey Doug, hope you don't mind me posting these on this thread, first time.

1986 IH 9670 I spotted the other day, belongs to a local farmer, ex Triline truck.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/th_DSC_0002.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/DSC_0002.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/th_DSC_0003-1.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/DSC_0003-1.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/th_DSC_0004-1.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p1/truckerbill/DSC_0004-1.jpg)



Don't mind at all - always did like those long-wheelbase Cornfield Cadillacs that Tri-Line had.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: norseman on November 30, 2008, 11:33:10 AM
Probably servince accessibility.

With the wipers mounted in the header above the windshield, you removed four screws on the panels and had instant access.

With the original cab going back to the CO-4000, you had to take the dash apart to work on the wipers.

Top-mounted wipers weren't the greatest - you'd use the washer to clear the windshield and any washer that remained on the blades ran down the windshield in front of you.

Thanks for that insight, Doug!

Jan.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: RustyShackelford on December 17, 2008, 08:07:48 AM
My Dad had two Transtars while he had the Massey Ferguson dealership. The first one was a '72 CO4070 with a sleeper, 250 Cummins twin screw with manual steering. The second one was a '79 CO4070 Transtar II daycab, single axle with a 290 Cummins that we stretched and put a 24' flatbed on it and pulled a home made 24' tilt trailer and a combine trailer with. We still have both of them but the '72 has been mostly cut up. The '79 was last used in '94 or '95.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: gse_t600 on January 19, 2009, 11:42:17 AM
Hi All,
        I thought I would add these pics of a Transtar owned by Crossling Contractors which I spotted last year in Naracoorte South Australia. Hope you enjoy them.

(http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l419/gse_t600/Truck%20photos/th_IMGP2205.jpg) (http://s330.photobucket.com/albums/l419/gse_t600/Truck%20photos/?action=view&current=IMGP2205.jpg)

(http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l419/gse_t600/Truck%20photos/th_IMGP2207.jpg) (http://s330.photobucket.com/albums/l419/gse_t600/Truck%20photos/?action=view&current=IMGP2207.jpg)

(http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l419/gse_t600/Truck%20photos/th_IMGP2206.jpg) (http://s330.photobucket.com/albums/l419/gse_t600/Truck%20photos/?action=view&current=IMGP2206.jpg)

Cheers.
Glenn.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: ParkinLot on May 07, 2009, 05:04:49 PM
Another great thread folks! Thanx!  :-D Of the trucks named a couple of pages back I've seen them on the road with the exception of the first one mentioned (forget name already  :roll:) It was the elusive one that the poster was trying to locate.  :-D I've always liked the International line up, drove some and owned some too...good trucks.  :wink:
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DIESEL-FUMES on May 30, 2009, 05:54:23 AM

 Hello all.
I have a question about my Transtar. The last time I took it out for a spin it started to rain. Soon as it did rain the truck bogged down and I could barley make it past 30 miles per hour. So Pulled in a parking lot and after a little snooping around, I found out the air cleaner was soaked. I did have the air drum and stack off because I had to do, a little brazing on it to repair some minor holes. anybody have any idea on what might have happened to make it get wet. I did check the lid to make sure it was on tight. It is a major pain in the tennis shoes to get it to fit. but from what I could tell it did seat down. The only thing that I could see. Was on the bottom. There is a rubber piece, that I think is for letting moister run out .   It doesn't look any different than it did before but it might have let some water in.. In addition, In this picture the air intake is turned out a little farther than it should be. But I did turn it back before the trip. anyways, hought I would check to if anyone has any ideas or has been through this.....

Thanks Terry.....

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l222/Diesel-Fumes/Sadie%20transtar/th_DSC_8295.jpg) (http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l222/Diesel-Fumes/Sadie%20transtar/DSC_8295.jpg)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Threedog on October 24, 2009, 03:33:58 PM
Thanks for the pics of the old Transtar COE's.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: z1000rcr on November 15, 2009, 09:35:55 PM
I think my love affair with the Trans star started in the early 80's when I was 5 or 6.  Scotty's was a hardware chain in FL at the time and they had a fleet of single axle transtars that were painted green with orange lettering.  I remember Nylint even made a toy of one that I used to have.

Here's a pic of one of their old stores

(http://thelizardmaster.com/images/hdScottys.gif)

Ron
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: SpreadAxle on May 17, 2010, 05:13:47 AM
I think my love affair with the Trans star started in the early 80's when I was 5 or 6.  .  I remember Nylint even made a toy of one that I used to have.

Same here. I had one that was Silver with a single axle with a sleeper. I believe Ertl made a metal toy of this truck as well. Approx 1/25 scale, but a metal toy like Nylint.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on January 22, 2011, 05:19:39 PM
These scans were recently added to a website used by model makers for reference purposes. I didn't realize there were so many choices until I saw them all together. I've seen them all at one time or another in various color combinations.
(http://images110.fotki.com/v606/fileaaXo/f86a8/5/117425/9422481/Co4070paint1.jpg)(http://images12.fotki.com/v216/filerwqb/f86a8/5/117425/9422481/co4070paint2.jpg)

http://images110.fotki.com/v606/fileaaXo/f86a8/5/117425/9422481/Co4070paint1.jpg
http://images12.fotki.com/v216/filerwqb/f86a8/5/117425/9422481/co4070paint2.jpg
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Hanky on August 01, 2011, 12:50:19 PM
I was in Cache Creek and this good looking Transtar was there.

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/hanky_bucket/72-3.gif)

Hanky
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Ray F on August 01, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
That Transtar Looks like an Ex-Horseless Carriage Tractor  :o ???
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Hanky on August 01, 2011, 03:09:32 PM
That Transtar Looks like an Ex-Horseless Carriage Tractor  :o ???
You are right it is, I wish now that I got a better picture of it.

Hanky
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: shiny290 on March 25, 2012, 10:01:31 AM
Love them transtars I have a 77 myself. All original with 521k original miles. It worked on a farm all it's life I'm actually the 2nd owner.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Tim B on May 13, 2013, 06:44:00 AM
Yes, the transtars are cool. Great pics !!!
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DougA on June 24, 2018, 07:42:05 PM
This is an old framed picture I've had in my shop a long time,bought it at an auction years ago. New binders getting ready to leave the Fort. I think from around 1980. Have owned lots of old IHC's road tractors,have more pics if anyones interested. Old amateur photography though.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/DSCN0773.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/DSCN0773.jpg.html)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: charlie on June 24, 2018, 07:47:36 PM
Cool picture. :) 8) I'd certainly enjoy seeing some more pics sir. ;D
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DougA on June 24, 2018, 08:04:03 PM
My first truck,1969 COF4070A. Had a NTC-335,13 speed direct,and 4.11 gears,with tall tubeless rubber.Nice set up for an old binder. Was turned up nicely,and to this day was one of the best running trucks I ever drove,just a good torquey combo.
No comments about my bell bottoms,or mullet,lol....pic is from 1974
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/004_3.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/004_3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DougA on June 24, 2018, 08:09:29 PM
My first new truck on the day I brought it home from Reading,Pa. International,beautiful 5 color paint job. Very early 1977 Eagle 4300. NTC-350 Small Cam,RTO 12513,4.44 on 10.22 rubber. Great truck,pic is from 77,with my dear mother.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/003_2.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/003_2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DougA on June 25, 2018, 04:17:51 AM
My 1984 4300 Eagle glider kit I built. Out in Pasco Washington,delivering a bean harvester I brought out of western New York.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/07e9d58e-6a6d-4efa-939f-69ee5e5f9312.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/07e9d58e-6a6d-4efa-939f-69ee5e5f9312.jpg.html)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Paystar on June 30, 2018, 04:49:08 PM
Awesome pics DougA! I love old Internationals.

They had some of the nicest paint jobs there was back in the Transtar days.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DougA on July 01, 2018, 07:02:27 PM
Yes they did,the 77 had 5 colors,all paint,no decals. This is the last truck I owned,1995 9300 Eagle,Viper Red. N-14 500,15 speed. Had that truck 21 years,nicest truck I ever owned. Sure miss it.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/001_6.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/001_6.jpg.html)
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/002_3.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/002_3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Paystar on July 03, 2018, 03:43:23 PM
Wow, I like that too! Nice specs also. I remember when I first saw one identical to that in the International magazine I used to get back then. Those rims looked cool too.

I had an older 9300 but it had a Mik-Mak high rise bunk on it with a 425 3406 Cat and 15 speed.

I had always wished my 2002 9900i had that 9300 style hood with the 4 headlights. That was my favorite hood.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DougA on August 11, 2018, 05:44:39 PM
Found another old pic of my 77 Eagle from the winter of 77-78.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/CCF08082018_00000.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/CCF08082018_00000.jpg.html)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DougA on August 11, 2018, 05:48:42 PM
Loading new JCB backhoes out of the plant in White Marsh,Md,going to Vancouver,BC,with my 1985 4300 Eagle. Pic is from 1988. Sorry,I don't know how to enlarge a picture.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/001_7.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/001_7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: JJG on September 10, 2018, 01:23:24 AM
I was just going through this thread again here and realized the cool shot of Walmsley Bros,they had quite a fleet of them back then, all A- train dump trailers, I was very amused watching them do paving jobs back in the time, based out of London at Comissioners and Highbury Ave. Fantastic topic all the way around.

Jim.
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: Boll Weevil on September 16, 2018, 03:58:48 PM
Found another old pic of my 77 Eagle from the winter of 77-78.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/CCF08082018_00000.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/CCF08082018_00000.jpg.html)
      Beautiful trucks, especially the ‘77. Is that a Sea Wheels logo on the door? I remember the name and possibly some details. We’re they part of Daily Express? Did they pull containers?
Title: Re: International Transtar Photo Lineage from Doug McKenzie
Post by: DougA on September 26, 2018, 05:03:58 PM
You are correct. I was with them briefly,then Daily Express after that.