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Open Trucking Category => LESS THAN TRUCKLOAD => Topic started by: Rob Archer on March 13, 2011, 03:18:39 PM

Title: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Rob Archer on March 13, 2011, 03:18:39 PM
Let's share some of the insider knowlege.
Buffalo NY might be BUF or Termal 009 as an example.
FAST is Free and Secure Transportation as another example.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Greg_E on March 13, 2011, 03:42:47 PM
I was always interested in these codes. A good idea for a thread Rob.

Before Roadway was merged into YRC, their terminal number here was 141. I noticed the workers of that terminal even formed a group on Facebook to stay in touch.

Most of the other terminals here use PHL for Philadelphia. Watkins/FedEx National LTL used that designation even though they were in a suburb just outside the city. I don't know if they are still there or if they went to where ever FedEx Freight's terminal is.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Jimmy B on March 13, 2011, 05:31:58 PM
Our YRC terminal here in Sparks is 819 which is Roadways system of terminal idenifacation. Yellow used an alpha code for terminals, Sparks was RNE, it borrowed the R from Reno, and the NE from Nevada. Many carriers that have terminals in this area use the alpha code RNO. This just drops the E in Reno.

I'm not sure when it was adopted, as with railroads there is a standard alpha code for carriers. It's called "SCAC" and that is short for Standard Carrier Alpha Code, each carrier has their own alpha code which is different from any other carrier's code.

YRC uses the Roadway Express code which is RDWY, prior to the merger Yellow's code was YFSY. Some simple ones to figure out are Old Dominion Freight Lines alpha code which is ODFL, another simple one is Oak Harbor Freight Lines which is OHFL. UPS Freight's SCAC is UPGS UPGF - Reddaway Truck Lines' code is RETL.

This should prove to be pretty interesting, good thread topic.

Jimmy B  
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Dan Burkhart on March 13, 2011, 05:39:20 PM
 Not sure if CN still has acronyms for their various terminals, but 30ish years ago when I was involved they did. I was there when they opened the new Brampton Intermodal Terminal, which was always referred to as BIT.
 I remember asking Don Ford, who was my boss at CN at the time, what would happen to that policy should they ever decide to open a terminal at South Hampton..... Hey, bada bing.. tish. ;D
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: hwyhaulier on March 14, 2011, 06:35:13 AM
Jimmy B - Rob - All -

The SCAC method industry wide. Motor Carriers participants in filed tariff like
publications which use the widely understood method. So, as examples, the
YSFY and ODFL short hand...

Individual Carrier Terminal Codes? This could get a bit fast and loose. Within
the C F W Y System, each Station had an assigned Number, and also a three
alpha character Acronym. In everyday work, the Acronym preferred, for ease
of use and less prone to error. The Company did tend to use familiar Airport
Codes. It used the ones that were more obvious. (For instance, the line did
not refer to Topeka, KS as "FOE". Rather, IIRC, it was a convenient "TPK".)

.........................Vern...................
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: heyns57 on March 15, 2011, 04:49:34 PM
Rob mentioned FAST, the Free and Secure Trade program that makes cross-border commercial shipments simpler and subject to fewer delays.  He leaves it to me to bore you with the other programs he deals with every day. 

CSA is the Customs Self Assessment program for low-risk, pre-approved importers, carriers and registered drivers.  This is yet another program to save time and money. 

PIP is the Partners in Protection program, a voluntary program to secure the trade chain one partnership at a time.  Members are recognized as trusted partners. 

CDRP is the Commercial Driver Registration Program.  It offers efficient clearance into Canada from the U.S. to low risk goods, and pre-approved importers, carriers and commercial drivers. 

The U.S. Customs Trade Partnership Against Terrorism program is an initiative of the CBP, U.S. Customs and Border Protection. They ask business to ensure the integrity of their security practices, and to verify the security guidelines of their business partners. 

Surely, there must be overlap in these programs. 
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: roogie on March 18, 2011, 09:31:15 PM
FedEx Freight Kansas City has number and code, KCY - 550 and when I worked in Dallas it was DAL.  Since going to linehaul I have not been able to keep up with all the changes and additions.  I know Denver had been DEN forever, then it briefly went to DVR for a while and then back to DEN again. 

Tons of these and also run IDs like our Denver/Kansas meet in WaKeeney, Kansas is a WAKE and the Pratt, Kansas meet I ran last bid with Stratford, Texas was PRKS.

roog
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: willigkid on March 20, 2011, 03:11:33 PM
When I worked for Willig Freight Lines, each terminal had a number code. One through nineteen where California terminals, the twenty's were Arizona, the thirty's Nevada, the forty's Oregon and the fifty's Washington. Each terminal also had a designated color crayon or chalk to mark the freight. For example, Santa Rosa's crayon color was yellow, so you would mark the cartons or pallet with the destination terminal code and you could tell by the color where the shipment originated. At one point, even the hand trucks were painted the terminal color I guess that way if a hand truck was accidently left in an outbound trailer it could be returned.

Willigkid
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: John L. Becker on March 20, 2011, 05:29:31 PM
UPS Freight's SCAC is UPSG

Correct me if i'm wrong, but UPS Freight's SCAC is UPGF (United Parcel Ground Freight.

Speaking of UPS, package has a terminal list all their own; it's known as SLIC (Standard Location Idenitification Code.

For example, the SLIC for Harrisburg, PA is PAHAR (or HARPA to the feeder department). SLIC for Jefferson St. (Chicago) is ILJEF.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Boll Weevil on March 20, 2011, 05:59:17 PM
Pitt Ohio (SCAC: PITD) assigns a three letter code as well as a number to it's terminals in the chronological order that each terminal opened. I work at the Washington, PA terminal which is known as WSH or 18. A few terminals have been relocated but have kept their orginal designations such as West Middlesex, PA (WMS 9) which is now located in Hermitage, PA and Battle Creek, MI (BTC 22) which moved to Portage, MI. The newest terminal is Indianapolis, IN (IND 23) but there is actually only 21 terminals-Temple Hills, MD (19) and York, PA (21) were closed within a few years of opening.

Freight is marked with the letter designation with a black marker but liberties are taken in the case of at least one terminal. We're actually located in Eighty Four, PA so every now and then I'll see 84 written on the shrinkwrap. You can get away with that sort of thing in a smaller, regional company.

Pallet jacks are assigned and stenciled with spray paint with the terminal number followed by a hyphen and a "unit" number.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Jimmy B on April 09, 2011, 10:58:45 PM
UPS Freight's SCAC is UPSG

Correct me if i'm wrong, but UPS Freight's SCAC is UPGF (United Parcel Ground Freight.


John,

You are most certainly correct...

Jimmy B
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Jimmy B on April 18, 2011, 12:21:11 AM
Here are a few more:

Empty trailer = "MTY"

28 foot trailer = pup

40, 42, 45, 48 and/or 53 foot trailer = van (slang "long box")

Delivery receipt (the document that the consignee signs on delivery) = "DR"

At time of pickup, shipping document, bill of lading = "BOL"

Jimmy B
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: John L. Becker on April 18, 2011, 04:08:15 AM
Here are a few I can think of:

KFF = Keep From Freezing

PLT/SKD - Pallet/Skid

K/D or S/U = Knocked Down, Set Up

FS = Fuel Surcharge

FAK = Freight All Kinds

BW = Blanket wrap

STC= Said To Contain

NOI = Not Otherwise Indicated
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: doug mckenzie on April 18, 2011, 05:01:30 AM
Here are a few more:

Empty trailer = "MTY"

28 foot trailer = pup

40, 42, 45, 48 and/or 53 foot trailer = van (slang "long box")

Delivery receipt (the document that the consignee signs on delivery) = "DR"

At time of pickup, shipping document, bill of lading = "BOL"

Jimmy B


Delivery receipt: P.O.D. = Proof of Delivery.

SLC = Shipper's load and Count.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Jimmy B on April 18, 2011, 05:32:46 AM
Auh, here is another one I use alot every work day:

Shrink Wrapped Pallet = SWP
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: hwyhaulier on April 18, 2011, 05:54:57 AM
John -

Ah! This one pure genius: STC= Said To Contain

The carriers just love this one, as it is effectively a release from any involvement
in knowledge about what is in the box! Sly and seasoned guys on the trucks know
to use "STC" in preparing enroute BOL documents. Just about any carriers where
I worked were quite aware of benefits of use of the term...

........................Vern......................
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Jimmy B on April 18, 2011, 05:59:41 AM
Shorthand:

1 SWP/STC 150 ctns.

If the shipment is tendered as a carton count all cartons need labels, if tendered as pallet count only SWPs need labels and cartons on the SWPs don't need counting.

Jimmy B

Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: John L. Becker on April 18, 2011, 09:47:15 AM
Delivery receipt: P.O.D. = Proof of Delivery.

Ah, the old POD. I used to have look up several POD's a week when worked for Midlantic back in the 80's. They were mostly for the old Drackett account (Windex, Drano, etc. before S.C. Johnson bought them).

They were usually always cut-and-dry, no exceptions.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Jimmy B on April 19, 2011, 01:34:03 AM
In the day to day operation a typical example of using "DR" would be like the following, oh these instruction were given me last week:

"Jim, after dropping and spotting your triples at Amazon hook an MTY and use it for your pickup. Also, please check the drivers room for 'DRs' and bring them back"

Jimmy B



Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Jimmy B on April 19, 2011, 02:15:38 AM
String = hook a set of trailers.

Example: "Stirng these three trailers, 129853, 200432 and 131200 for the next schedule east."

Jimmy B
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: werkhorse on April 21, 2011, 04:13:54 AM

Ah! This one pure genius: STC= Said To Contain


Here in Tasmania, and possibly the rest of Australia, If I take an FTL to the DC and get the POD it sometimes says STC which is shorthand for 'Subject to check' ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: §wishy on April 21, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
LOL
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Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Gary Smith on April 21, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
Delivery receipt: P.O.D. = Proof of Delivery.

SLC = Shipper's load and Count.

And with some shippers that I dealt with, SLC was only SLC as long as nothing was short or damaged at delivery.  If anything was wrong, they'd say "File a claim with your carrier".

The food industry is notorious for this practice.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: cfto30570 on April 25, 2013, 05:01:36 PM
heres a few of our terminals and destinationa @ consolidated freightways   cgi .chicago hmy hammond in marshslling yard rfo richfield oh rmy   richfield oh marshalling yard ako akron oh  mlc mira loma ca slc salt lake ut okc oklahoma city ok fri freemont ind col columbus oh    anyone remember any more ?
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: wbache on April 25, 2013, 05:37:10 PM
New Orleans was  NOLA at Bekins but most destinations were only 2 or three letters--SF San Francisco--LA for Los Angeles---FR Fresno-SD San Diego-LV Las Vegas --PHX Phoenix-TUC-Tucson--ELP Elpaso--AQ Albuquerque--DE Denver and so on.   Probably wouldn't work any more but  furniture movers frequently used the term MSG --marked scratched gouged when inventorying a shipment and PBO was a term used for containers packed by owner.   At Dealers Transit since transported used vehicles usually lacked a registration the serial number was a must. Finding the serial number on some trailers could be a challenge as there would be several layers of paint on the builder plate on a well traveled unit.  Sometimes we found it engraved on the frame. On an oversize load it was important to verify the dimensions as shippers either  by design or accident tried to shrink the shipment to get a lower rate. 
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Chris_E on April 25, 2013, 05:43:27 PM
heres a few of our terminals and destinationa @ consolidated freightways   cgi .chicago hmy hammond in marshslling yard rfo richfield oh rmy   richfield oh marshalling yard ako akron oh  mlc mira loma ca slc salt lake ut okc oklahoma city ok fri freemont ind col columbus oh    anyone remember any more ?

I remember PHL was Philly.  I'm not entirely sure, but I think Pittsburgh was PIT (makes logical sense anyway  :P).
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: perufb on April 26, 2013, 07:47:42 AM
At Conway all are terminals start with x, Plattsburgh is xpl, Albany is xab, newburgh is xnw.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Stn4Cap on April 26, 2013, 09:15:32 AM
When I worked for CP Rail, we used the following:

Smiths Falls terminal - MF 2666

Chalk River - RV 4000

Montreal - 2320

Toronto - 3173

Every city / town has a code used for the name, I just can't remember the rest! The lower numbers started in the east and went higher, the further west you went.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: gijoe707 on March 20, 2014, 11:09:39 AM
our terminal in rochester ny was rer-121-yellow freight before the merge.i remember cf s was rcr
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Fed-Up on August 14, 2014, 04:15:41 AM
Here's a few more from the old YELLOW days
Ind Indianapolis, Bow Bowling Green ky, MIA Miami FL, OKC, NSH Nashville TN, KCM Kanasas city, JMI Jackson Mississippi, CGB Chicago, Buf buffalo ny, MBK Maybrook Ny I know a lot more but I am sure nobody cares much lol. Funny how you don't forget those things now it's all numbers which I only know a few of the actual codes 324, 611, 356, 347 it used to be much easier. If I had a skid going to cinncinnati I would put it on CIN now I think it's 226 it's a lot easier to mess up then if you use a 3 letter code. Hey but what do I know I am just the guy loading the trailers all night.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: gijoe707 on August 19, 2014, 10:44:02 AM
I guess they went the roadway- there way with the numbers. who bought who? I forgot most of the codes also--rer-rochester ny--lax-los angeles-i think; syr-syracuse ny. I wonder how the equipment # s work now.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Fed-Up on August 19, 2014, 05:11:26 PM
The tractors are still in the Yellow numbering system the trailers on the other hand have me confused.
All the new trailers seem to be in the Yellow system also but for some reason they are renumbering older Yellow pups in the Roadway number system a little confusing but hey what do I know.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: Chris_E on August 19, 2014, 08:05:40 PM
There's a current YRC trailer roster in the Trailers section on the forum.
Title: Re: CODES - Terminals, Origins, destinations, acronyms.
Post by: gijoe707 on August 21, 2014, 08:57:43 AM
thanks chris